Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. JavaScript is disabled. Hodgdon.com says 3.9-4.3gr for LRN. I don't pay so much attention to the bullet manufacturer when loading. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. 3.4 gr. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Thanks all. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. Loading is always at your own risk. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. It's for practice, not for competition. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. 1.100 in. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. JavaScript is disabled. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. Really..so, how would someone measure that? Boris_La . They are snappy, but fun to shoot. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. Probably saved me some money. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. Your previous content has been restored. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. C.O.A.L. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. You are using an out of date browser. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. It may not display this or other websites correctly. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Nov 7, 2015. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Close w/ TG can be problematic. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. What is your favorite firearm to load for? A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. Is this not a safe load? Your link has been automatically embedded. Unique. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. Seen a few of those over the years. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified". I've had good luck with 3.4gr of Titegroup with the 147fmj boolit. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Reply Quote. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. By You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. I want to be safe. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 I am gonna give it a try. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. BrianEnos.com Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. looking4reloadingdeals This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. 2.8 gr. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. . Save Share. Why? You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. Nuts accurate. I am also using the Xtreme bullets. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. I dont think i would worry about it. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. You need to get teh double disc kit. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. You cannot paste images directly. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! I do know its about mid charge range tho. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. You say that now. I am using CBI pistol powder. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? Skip this one, you can do better. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. Paste as plain text instead, Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. JavaScript is disabled. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. And how are you metering 3.3gr? Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Runs 100% reliable in everything, including 9mm AR and Beretta CX4 Storm. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. 10-12 ft according to my chronos instructions inorder to prevent getting false readings due to the muzzle blast. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . and 8 lb. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. I use tight group for 9mm. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. We will pass. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. Can't keep enough at the house. containers. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Thanks guys. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. When we are sold out, we are sold out. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Obligatory start low and work your way up I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. Both Plated round nose and JHP. My brother gave me some Titegroup. When I first learned it was long before Algore had invented the net. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums.